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Author: bala    Time: 10-2-2007 07:59     Subject: Heroes Season 2 General Discussion Thread (Spoilers)



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Sorry if someone was meant to start a topic since no-one has yet i hope mods don't mind. This episode to me just felt normal we learnt a little bit more about the twins and we can see why they need each other.

Claire she had cut off her one of her toe-she couldn't just leave it alone could she look where it got her-serves her right now he's knows and it will be interesting to see what's happening next.
There something mentally concerning about her state of mind where she willing hurt herself to see how far it goes.

Hiro-well let just say that guy full surprises.

so what did rest of you think?

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Author: dognxtdoor    Time: 10-2-2007 09:15

I thought the entire bit about hiro was a bit predictable myself, I have sort have thought all along something like that since last season. When he talked about that hero from history, and the fact that he could time travel, and the fact that his future self was a bad-ass warior with that sword hmmmm I guess I should have expressed my theory sooner so not to sound like a monday morning quarterback.

That kid that saw Claire has no right to talk, I mean here he is flying, and peeping through a second-story window. Who is he going to tell

As for the twins not really sure what kind of ability that is, except that they need eachother to stay in balance. Ying-Yang type of thing.

All in all good episode glad I watched before going to work.
Author: waterlilybarb    Time: 10-2-2007 10:48     Subject: Reply #1 bala's post

No worries bala, you put a spoiler alert up...that's my main concern when folks start new threads about episodes.

I found the fact that Claire's regenerative ability goes as far as regrowing a limb very interesting.  I also thought her reasoning was good...that she might hold the key to help others.

Peter obviously no longer has to concentrate for his abilities to manifest, and he can phase now...cool.

The twins are a bit creepy...well their abilities are anyway.  This season is obviously going to explore the dark side of having abilities, and that not all of them have a positive effect.

Hiro is still Hiro.  I honestly thought when Takeo was shot with the arrows that he was dead, and Hiro would take over as Takeo.  I was glad I was wrong.  I'm sure this will play even more into the volume's title: "Generations".

That's all I have for now.
Author: alph1019    Time: 10-2-2007 12:23

so takeo kensei also has the regeneration ability.

i think dognxtdoor is right about the ying yang type thing with the twins.

it would have been funny if claire's toe didn't grow back and now she's missing a toe.
Author: silver1978    Time: 10-2-2007 12:36

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Hiro is still Hiro.  I honestly thought when Takeo was shot with the arrows that he was dead, and Hiro would take over as Takeo.  I was glad I was wrong.  I'm sure this will play even more into the volume's title: "Generations".
He's totally Hiros great-great-great grandfather or something!

Claire-the toe-EWWWW She was looking at the scissors and I was like oh no they aren't.....but they did. Wonder how the confrontation with the other kid (what is his name!?!??!) is going to go down? They are going to have to talk about it. I do wonder how far they will push the "Can Claire's blood cure?" storyline. It might seem a bit strange but what they go so far as to take off a body part (hand, foot) and try grafting it to someone else? Plus, does she have a huge threshold for pain or what??!?! I stub my toe and start crying!

Mohinder/HRG/The Haitian.......hmmmm so much going on there, but not much revealed yet.

Peter- How far will he go to learn who he is? Where did electro-man and phasing come from? Maybe he doesn't have to concentrate on his abilities because hes not really thinking about them but using them instinctively.

Nathan- Shave and a Haircut Two Bits
Mama Petrelli- WTF was that!!!! Was it all in her head? Someone got into her mind? The bats in her belfry just went haywire.

I agree- the twins. Scary. Eerie. Bet she has a hard time getitng a date /drum roll

MOREMOREMORE!!!
Author: dognxtdoor    Time: 10-2-2007 13:35

Want a new theory on Peter...

ITS NOT PETER! its actually Sylar, and he has amnesia which is why he has all the abilities without having to conentrate to use them....... We don't know where the real Peter is yet at all   Thats my thought....
Author: dognxtdoor    Time: 10-2-2007 13:36

I think hiro is going to be Takeo though...Hiro will do all the battles, and Takeo will get the glory...
Author: bala    Time: 10-3-2007 03:23     Subject: Reply #7 dognxtdoor's post

well given that Takeo can heal wouldn't it give him addition confidence he can't die so he might be able battle well enough under hiro guidance
Author: silver1978    Time: 10-3-2007 04:53

Do I think Peter=Sylar noooo.....I mean its possible but I would be pissed.
In fact did you know there is a drinking game on that theory from the 9th Wonders forum?

Thats what I was thinking. Now that he knows an ordinary death blow won't kill him - I think he is likely to do a lot of things he never would have done before, making him the "hero" Hiro always said he should have been. Also he is supposedly 90 some odd years old when Hiro actually meets him!!! (WIKI says Date of birth 1584, Hiro meets him in 1671). If he doesn't age and doesn't die - is he still alive in the present time line? Wasn't there something on spoilers about a 1000 year old character?

Who killed Hiros dad? Theres a thread over at another forum and someone took stills from the scene and lightened them, Here is the original: http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/photos/season2/28323.shtml#photo
Resulting lightened one attached. Any clues on who this is? Could it be Takeo???? Think about the twist that would be..PLUS!!! [Possible Spoiler] The new evil Hero is supposed to be called Kane.....and it was reported that he was supposed to be played by David Anders, but David Anders plays Kensei- are they one and the same?There has been tons of confusion/leaks/speculation on this. I for one thing Kensei and Kane are the same and Kensei killed Kaito[/spoiler]
Author: gabsimom    Time: 10-3-2007 06:42

Perhaps the killers ability is to travel through electricity. Also maybe he can manipulate it. See the power box behind him and wasn't there some kind of electric attack going on in the jail cell with mama.
Author: silver1978    Time: 10-3-2007 17:04     Subject: Reply #10 gabsimom's post

Wouldn't explain how he left the scene? Actually I guess it could if he just like attached to a powerline or something.
Author: waterlilybarb    Time: 10-4-2007 10:12     Subject: Reply #5 silver1978's post

Re: Peter...phasing came from DL.  They were both in Kirby Plaza in the season finale.  Peter would have absorbed his ability there.

Re: Claire...my Mum wants to know where she found such sharp scissors.   Never mind the fact that it would hurt (she's mangled herself so often, she's most likely used to it), how did she have the strength to cut off her toe with a pair of kitchen scissors?

I refuse to read the spoiler, so I won't comment on that.  I do enjoy finding out and figuring things out myself, as I watch the show.


p.s. Dan, if Peter is actually Sylar, then D.L. is most definitely dead.  We know he's most likely not returning, but he could have died from the gun shot wounds.  Another thing for which we'll have to wait to know for sure.
Author: imarielle626    Time: 10-4-2007 10:20

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Originally posted by dognxtdoor at 10-2-2007 21:35
Want a new theory on Peter...

ITS NOT PETER! its actually Sylar, and he has amnesia which is why he has all the abilities without having to conentrate to use them....... We don't know where the real  ...
I don't think its possible that he is actually Sylar because of the abilities.  First if it was Sylar he would have had to kill the girl who can change appearance, which he didn't, in order to look like Peter.  Second he would have also had to have killed D.L. in order to phase through the rope.  Peter however did come in contact with DL so it is possible for him to have acquired that ability.
Author: silver1978    Time: 10-4-2007 12:29

You would think that if one could shift out of phase, that he wouldn't get shot!! I don't think DL will be back though.

I jsut don't think the Peter=Sylar=Peter theory has much weight. I guess only time will tell.
Author: roca    Time: 10-4-2007 19:22     Subject: Reply #14 silver1978's post

About DL... he got shot from protecting Nikki. If he phased, then the shot would have passed through him into Nikki.

In regards to the Sylar in Peter's disguised theory... Sylar can't heal his own wounds unless Sylar killed Peter or Claire or Kensei...

As for the hooded sweatshirt guy that killed Kaito... just a silly thought... what about West?! West can fly too... Maybe he's secretly working for the company?!
Author: silver1978    Time: 10-5-2007 01:08     Subject: Reply #15 roca's post

He would have to fly pretty fast though since he lives in CA and Kaito was in NY?
Author: roca    Time: 10-5-2007 02:04     Subject: Reply #16 silver1978's post

Well it was a silly thought...

But hey who knows maybe West could fly as fast as Superman
Author: waterlilybarb    Time: 10-5-2007 14:04     Subject: Reply #17 roca's post

Nathan flies very fast...there's a sonic boom when he really goes, so it's possible West can fly that fast too.  I really don't think he's the killer, since he seems pretty naive about the dangers have possessing abilities, among other things.
Author: gypsiegirl66    Time: 10-12-2007 12:50     Subject: Peter's transformation

What do you think about how Peter has transformed? Like the disappearing tattoo and when he almost killed that guy? My friend and I were discussing this the other night and we both thought of Jessica. We had both thought he must have absorbed her ability and now he has an evil side. This could really take this story a lot of places, I think he'll be in Ireland for a while.
Oh and did you see how part of the Tattoo was the same shape as the death mark on all the pics of the elder heroes........I wonder what that means?

This is getting sooooo cool & interesting!!!
Author: waterlilybarb    Time: 10-12-2007 12:59     Subject: Reply #19 gypsiegirl66's post

Since the tattoo is the same symbol  that has shown up throughout the series, I think it has more to do with showing us that he now, not only has Niki's super strength, but her dual personality as well.  The fact that he really wanted to kill that guy shows us something has changed about Peter, who is innately a kind person who has done his best to use his power to help or protect others.

I definitely agree....the show is getting even more interesting, and is definitely cool.
Author: gypsiegirl66    Time: 10-12-2007 14:53     Subject: Reply #20 waterlilybarb's post

True the symbol has shown up throughout the series and it was cool to learn (from Ando) that it is the crest on Kensei’s shield.......there is definitely a connection here. Maybe I'm the only one that didn't see the crest on the shield before, that wouldn't surprise me, since I know I'm in need of glasses (I'm gonna have that lasik surgery though)

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Author: silver1978    Time: 10-12-2007 15:53

I totallyl thought the tattoo was on the girl. I think I have to re-watch that part. I was really thinking she had a power of some kind as well.

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Author: waterlilybarb    Time: 10-12-2007 17:38     Subject: Reply #22 silver1978's post

I'm not so sure she doesn't have some sort of power.  Even the latest GN seems to hint at it, though I might be reading more into it than there is.  At least Peter has a girlfriend now.
Author: xxjujuxx    Time: 10-13-2007 03:54

i loved claire's story.. i'm scared the dad dies though! It might be stopped... hopefully! Claire and the guy are soo cute together
Author: imarielle626    Time: 10-13-2007 09:13

i wonder if Claire is going to confront her dad about West and the abduction.  If she does he'll probably have to find out about the cutting off the toe thing which could be interesting...
Author: waterlilybarb    Time: 10-13-2007 10:56     Subject: Reply #24 xxjujuxx's post

Did you notice in Isaac's painting that his killer looked an awful lot like Claire?
Author: imarielle626    Time: 10-13-2007 15:04

i dont think that painting necesarilly means she killed him, it just means she watched it happen.  It never occured to me when i saw the painting that she could have been the one to kill him, although that thought is in my mind now...
Author: waterlilybarb    Time: 10-13-2007 15:34     Subject: Reply #27 imarielle626's post

Muahahaha.  I love to hear that hamster wheel spinning.

It will be interesting to see how that particular prophetic painting is brought to fruition.  I wouldn't be surprised if our little Claire-Bear got wise to her Daddy's evil ways and did him in.  Can't wait to find out.
Author: xxjujuxx    Time: 10-14-2007 00:13

yeah from the picture, it looked like she was gonna leave her dad die to be with West ( who can blame her lol just kidding)... I reaaly like the dad though...
And yes, Claire WAS in the picture nd she was kissing West.... You know mayby west in in disguise a bad guy...
Oh and it really sucks that Sylar is alive... !!!!!!!
p.s. thanks for making me watch heroes ( i thinnk it was u) IT IS THE BEST, with DH of course!! lol
Author: gypsiegirl66    Time: 10-14-2007 12:06     Subject: Reply #26 waterlilybarb's post

I agree that Claire very well may turn on her father, she seems quite disturbed by what Wes told her. I was also thinking, that maybe the girl in the painting wasn't Claire, but was Jessica/Nikk instead. She & Claire, do have similar hair styles and she does have to do the company a favor before they will help her.  
Author: carlorica    Time: 10-15-2007 04:42     Subject: Reply #30 gypsiegirl66's post

I have to agree with you gypsiegirl66. Jessica does owe the company a favor and she has killed before. This may be the last thing she does before they take her powers away from her. This leads me to believe that the company may have the virus that will take powers away from people. That is why they are after them. Those who will not help they get the virus.
Author: SirAlain    Time: 10-15-2007 10:55

I just hope the new villain is far more evil than Sylar! And also the show should come up with more controversial writing... something to keep the audience buzzing.
Author: gypsiegirl66    Time: 10-15-2007 18:09     Subject: Reply #32 SirAlain's post

I would say it's getiing pretty controversial. Wow, Matt's dad looking like being the killer, if not related Molly's nightmares and Molly going into shock like that. I didn't realize that Nathan had been banned from seeing his kids either. Sylar is now with the twins, who knows what is going to happen with that. I'm psyched to see Kristen Bell finally make her debut to the show too and it looks like Peter may be coming home.
Just when I didn't think this could get any better, bam they throw even better storyline out there..........you go Heroes!!!
Author: waterlilybarb    Time: 10-15-2007 19:26     Subject: Reply #33 gypsiegirl66's post

What about Nathan's reflection?  There is no way that is just his imagination.  I'm looking forward to seeing what's really going on with him.  I knew he wasn't doing well, but I didn't realize he wasn't allowed to see his kids either.  Obviously his drinking is a MUCH bigger problem than has been alluded to before.

I'm also curious about who that woman was in the photograph of the original 12.  No doubt she's connected to one of our heroes...could it be Niki?
Author: SirAlain    Time: 10-15-2007 19:44

Will Matt & Mohinder just kiss already? The sexual tension is killing me!!!
Author: carlorica    Time: 10-16-2007 03:47

I was cool finding out that Matt's dad is the one that Molly is scared to find. I cant wait to see how Matt's dad can do what he is doing to Molly. It is like he is able to put them into a comma.
Author: waterlilybarb    Time: 10-16-2007 08:19     Subject: Reply #35 SirAlain's post

Now, now...don't be a smart Aleck!   

I'm also curious about what's going to happen with Sylar and the twins.  When she said, "Gabriel...like the angel", I just about choked.  He's the furthest thing from an angel you could find.  I did find his reasoning interesting though.  That he's been hunted and vilified for doing what comes naturally to him.  I'm not saying I agree, but that's an interesting point of view, nonetheless.
Author: xxjujuxx    Time: 10-16-2007 12:11

waterlilybarb that's actually true... but i dont get WHO the man in the mirror is... Is he peter? Nathan? or maybe it is jessica under a different form!!!!! Wouldn't that be awesome.?
DONT ANY OF YOU THINK that Molly is SUCH a bad actress... seriously in episode 1, she is litterally laughing when shes getting killed!!
oh nd BtW didnt any of you laugh when Sylar said " Golly!" i thought it was hilarious
i'm liking the West/claire thing but im hating the "overprotective daddy" it's been going on for 2 long
Author: bala    Time: 10-16-2007 12:13     Subject: Reply #38 xxjujuxx's post

he has a right protect his daughter as he is going kill him.
Author: waterlilybarb    Time: 10-16-2007 14:29     Subject: Reply #38 xxjujuxx's post

I think the man in the mirror is a disfigured Nathan.  Maybe he absorbed some of Peter's power during the explosion.  Peter obviously has absorbed Niki's super strength, and it now looks like he has also absorbed the dual personality.  Maybe, since he absorbed this power shortly before the explosion, he & Nathan somehow fused and this power is in part, in both of them.

I think Molly's doing well.  I don't find her to be a bad actress.  But, I agree, HRG is getting on my nerves.  I guess it's preferable than him being Mr. Nice, but he's returning to his creepy self again.  He's a better character as a baddie, but I feel bad for Claire.

I was just rewatching last nights episode and freeze framed the photograph.  There are at least 3 women that we don't yet know.  One of them looks to be either a light skinned black woman, or hispanic.  The two others that are visible are caucasian, maybe one of them is Irish.  I also paused again on the scene with Nathan looking at his reflection.  It's definitely Nathan.

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Author: SirAlain    Time: 10-16-2007 20:39     Subject: Reply #40 waterlilybarb's post

What women? Are you talking about Maya (Alejandro's twin)? Monica (from New Orleans)? Caitlin (Ireland)? Or that new skank Kristin Bell?
Author: roca    Time: 10-16-2007 22:35     Subject: Reply #41 SirAlain's post

She's referring to the 3 unidentified women in the photograph... The photo of Linderman, Papa and mama Petrelli, Bob, Charles Deveaux, Kaito Nakamura, two unidentified men, three unidentified women and Matt's father.
Author: waterlilybarb    Time: 10-17-2007 07:51     Subject: Reply #42 roca's post

Thank you!  That's precisely what I was referring to.
Author: SirAlain    Time: 10-17-2007 08:57

Ah I see...



Standing, left to right: Unidentified woman, Daniel Linderman (Malcom McDowell), Mr Arthur Petrelli, Mrs. Angela Petrelli (Christine Rose), Kaito Nakamura (George Takei), Bob aka Goldfinger (Stephen Tobolowsky), unidentified woman, Mr. Parkman.

Seated, left to right: Unidentified woman, Charles Deveaux (Richard Roundtree), unidentified man, unidentified man.


People are saying that the black woman is Nana Dawson, but it doesn't look like her...
Author: waterlilybarb    Time: 10-17-2007 10:57     Subject: Reply #44 SirAlain's post

It can't be her.  The woman in the picture is too young and this picture was obviously taken within the past couple of years (in the storyline).  It is possible it was Monica's mother, who died in Katrina.  Also, though it hasn't yet been revealed on the show, the unidentified man (one of them anyway) is named Adam Monroe, according to sources on the net.  We still don't know who he's connected to though.

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Author: xxjujuxx    Time: 10-17-2007 11:50

this is so intriguing.... i'm hating it! lol
Why do they HAVE to put a cliff hanger at the end of each episode, eh?
Author: waterlilybarb    Time: 10-17-2007 14:24     Subject: Reply #46 xxjujuxx's post

To keep you coming back for more, of course.   It definitely makes it must see TV.
Author: roca    Time: 10-18-2007 21:06

You know looking at that picture again... I don't think it was any of the guy who killed Kaito. None of them look skinny enough... like the skinny man in a hooded sweats... Do you think it's one of the women? (Well, I still kinda think that guy is West... LOL)

Anyway, I don't think the Monica's mom is in the picture... if she's in the picture... Kaito would have known she died from Katrina and wouldn't have mentioned that there are 9 of them left...
Author: waterlilybarb    Time: 10-18-2007 21:35     Subject: Reply #48 roca's post

You're right.  I hadn't thought of that.  Of course it can't be Monica's mother.  Good pick up.  I agree that I don't think one of the people in the picture is the killer, for the same reason as you.  I don't think it's West, but that's not impossible.  Whoever was attacking Angela was able to do more than fly...it looked like they could disappear.  Could it be Peter somehow?  Next week's episode introduces Kristen Bell, and she's in Ireland on the lookout for Peter.  I want to know why.
Author: gypsiegirl66    Time: 10-18-2007 22:41     Subject: Reply #49 waterlilybarb's post

I'm just throwing this out there, I haven't really figured this all out yet, this just popped into my head. I was thinking about how the bomb going off, was able to take the powers that Peter absorbed from Jessica, and fuse them into Nathan. Could it have fused other powers of Peters into him? Like being stealth, he can already fly and if he has the Jessica/Nikki power, then his already not so nice side, could really become an evil devil. Could the killer be Nathan and he not even know it, like Jessica didn't know what Nikki was doing?
It's just something else to think about I guess, and I'm not going to rely on that photo too much, in my thinking. I will for the body size some, but they could be using a stand-in to throw us off, knowing that we'd blow the picture up. I may be wrong, but I've seen it done before in plenty of movies.
Author: waterlilybarb    Time: 10-19-2007 09:35     Subject: Reply #50 gypsiegirl66's post

That thought, about Nathan, had crossed my mind too.  The only thing is, he was outside the room when his mother was being attacked, so in that incident, it couldn't have been him...at least I don't think so.
Author: gypsiegirl66    Time: 10-20-2007 19:33     Subject: Reply #51 waterlilybarb's post

Yep, you're right!! I completely forgot about that, they're tricky little buggers those writers, they've got our heads ........lol
I've been sitting at the edge of my seat since the new season started, I don't think I remember a show that has had me in so much suspense


Arrgghh!!!
Author: roca    Time: 10-20-2007 23:21

I'm just wondering... why papa Petrelli isn't looking straight at the camera like everyone else... What's he looking at? Or who he's talking to?

I've read somewhere... some people thinks papa Petrelli's side view looks like Kensei... but I really don't think so. Any thoughts?

Kensei can't live forever right? Or can he? He still grow old like everyone else right?!
Author: imarielle626    Time: 10-21-2007 01:38

I've wondered why pap Petrelli isn't looking directly at the camera ever since the photo was shown.  Just looking back at it now and after reading roca's post, and idea was sparked in my mind...maybe there is a 13th person in the picture that we can't see.  Someone hiding behind the standing row that papa petrelli is either talking to or keeping an eye on.  It looks like he is looking behind his wife.
Author: roca    Time: 10-21-2007 03:00     Subject: Reply #54 imarielle626's post

Claude maybe?

Well, even if there's someone there... if there's someone invisible there, how come papa Petrelli knows that s/he's there? Why only papa Petrelli knows that s/he's there?

Humm But then Kaito did say there were 12 of them... and the picture shows 12...
Author: waterlilybarb    Time: 10-21-2007 10:38     Subject: Reply #55 roca's post

I'm sure there's a reason for it having to do with the storyline, but possibly they did that because they don't know who they will cast if that character comes into the story.  It's possible, since Hiro and Peter can time travel...or to be more accurate...bend the space/time continuum.
Author: SirAlain    Time: 10-22-2007 18:17

Omg omg I think Parkman and Candace are siblings!!!
Author: waterlilybarb    Time: 10-22-2007 20:27     Subject: Reply #57 SirAlain's post

Why do you say that?  Candace is dead, and after just watching "Fight or Flight" I don't see the correlation.  Do you mean Elle, the character played by Kristen Bell?  Even if you mean her, how did come to the conclusion that she and Parkman are related?  Just wondering.

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Author: silver1978    Time: 10-23-2007 07:48     Subject: Reply #58 waterlilybarb's post

Episode 5:

Well now we know where Peter got his electric powers. Still watching will post more

I think SirAlain is referring to the phone call with Elle outside the pub. She called the man on the phone daddy. If we assume that's Parkmans father (which I don't think is correct) that would make her and Parkman siblings.

This episode didn't really have much in the way of revelations.

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Author: imarielle626    Time: 10-23-2007 08:35

I think SirAlain made the connection because parkman's dad was able to trap them in a nightmare, similar to the way candace was able to distort reality.  I don't believe they are related, but I do see how the connection can be assumed.  I am starting to think that Elle (Kristen Bell) or her father (whom I don't think we know yet) is responsible for the murders/attempted murders because she can manipulate electricity.
Author: bala    Time: 10-23-2007 08:43

does anyone find it odd 9th wonder comic are still available?

issac died 6 months ago and since he's only one who can paint the future, with his death the comic should be ended.

how are comics available after his death?
Author: imarielle626    Time: 10-23-2007 09:08     Subject: Reply #61 bala's post

maybe he wrote a bunch of them that weren't printed before he died, or the one that Micah was showing Monica was an old one.  Wasn't it said that he is into comics so he could have dug up an older one to show her about the copycat
Author: SirAlain    Time: 10-23-2007 09:14     Subject: Reply #58 waterlilybarb's post

Yes imarielle626 is correct! Parkman's dad seemed to have a variation of both Matt's & Candace's power.
Although Candace now goes by the name "Michelle" - she was the one who nursed Sylar, remember!

And the character Elle is definitely tailor-made for the Mtv kids out there. Oh well. Some are saying she is HRG's daughter or Goldfinger's.
Author: bala    Time: 10-23-2007 09:34     Subject: Reply #62 imarielle626's post

well i'm not sure about this. i know he post comics one week in advanced it's been 6 months since he's dead-no mention how many he did?.
Author: waterlilybarb    Time: 10-23-2007 10:01     Subject: Reply #63 SirAlain's post

I see where your coming from now.  It's plausible, but since Candace/Michelle/Betty is now dead, I don't think it will play a very big part in the story, if any.

From the interview I read with Tim Kring & Kristen Bell, Elle has been raised by The Company...no idea yet as to who her parents are.  She's to provide some insight, a cautionary tale, if you will, as to what happens to someone who has grown up knowing about their abilities and being taught how to use them.  Considering she's been raised by The Company, her value system as to right and wrong is rather warped.

Re: the comics, imarielle could be right.  There's no reason that the comic Micah shows Monica has to be a new edition.  It could easily be an older copy that he remembered, to show Monica a power like hers.  Also, Isaac gave Hiro & Ando copies of unpublished comics.  The art work was in them but not the dialogue.  The Company took them, so if it is new, it's possible they're continuing to have them published to draw out more people with abilities.
Author: roca    Time: 10-23-2007 21:40

On the note on Elle's dad... I'm thinking Bob... He's the guy who "runs" the company at the moment.


Betty is Matt's sister? I don't think it's gonna be in the writing... Nathan and West can fly, and West is not Nathan's child. Kensei and Claire can heal, and Kensei is not Claire's father. They are all somehow related all right but not like that. Their abilities are in their genes, it's being past along through generations.


About the 9th wonders... the one Micah showed Monica is a past issue. The one we saw with Hiro arrives in New York is issue #14.
Author: gypsiegirl66    Time: 10-24-2007 16:15

I was kind of surprised at how easily Matt fell into that trap, I mean take the cuffs off me and I'll tell everything. How about leep the cuffs on ya and you tell me everything. Watching Matt following him to that room, was like watching a child follow a pedophile into a car.

I agree I don't think that Mat & Betty/Candice/Michelle??? are related, because at this point it would mean nothing.

I would sure like to get my hands on that copy-cat power though, I got a ton of things I could get done.....lol

Oh Barb I read that too, she has been around for a while it seems and we're in for a lot of surprises.  
Author: waterlilybarb    Time: 10-24-2007 16:39     Subject: Reply #67 gypsiegirl66's post

I hear ya' about the copycat power.  I could knit properly, play the instruments I've always wanted to learn, and, I suppose, if I watched a video of someone learning a language I could speak any language I wanted.  SWEET!

Re: Matt and his dad, I was surprised too, but sometimes we do foolish things when it comes to long-lost relatives.
Author: gypsiegirl66    Time: 10-24-2007 16:45     Subject: Reply #68 waterlilybarb's post

Exactly.... I have so many dreams, so little time. You and I are on the same page, as alway!! Hey did you read the GN? Who do you think that was up there?? Wes??
Author: waterlilybarb    Time: 10-24-2007 17:10     Subject: Reply #69 gypsiegirl66's post

I always read the GN's...how else could I come up with those questions for the quizzes?
I'm not sure who you're talking about though.  Sylar is in Molly's dream, but I didn't see anyone "up there".  In fact, where do you mean?  Is that the GN you're referring to?

I don't want to say too much...have to be careful not to give away any answers to this weeks quiz.
Author: SirAlain    Time: 10-30-2007 07:18

I bet that Kaitlyn has a power of her own! She's so mysterious.

And although I abhor West the most, I must give him props for what he did to the bitchy cheerleader!
Author: waterlilybarb    Time: 10-30-2007 15:36     Subject: Reply #71 SirAlain's post

I think Caitlyn has a power too.  In the GN Petrified Lightning she was able to help Peter use his power, so I've had my suspicions.

I too liked how they got back at the nasty cheerleader.

How about the return of evil HRG?  And Hiro changing the course of history?   It's getting better & better.
Author: imarielle626    Time: 10-30-2007 17:14

I too think Caitlin has a power, there is just something about her character that makes her seem not ordinary.

Who is Adam Monroe?  If I recall correctly, he is supposed to be one of the men from the picture.  His name came up at least twice in the episode (once on the file Mohinder picked up and I'm assuming he's the Adam from Montreal).

I wonder what the next catastrophe is going to be that kills of 93% of the world's population.  I hope Peter regains his memory soon, I'm curious to see what happened to Peter after he exploded and before he was discovered in the storage box.

I feel bad for Ando.  Those scolls were his only tie to his best friend and now there are no more.  I hope Hiro set history back on course and return to the present soon.
Author: waterlilybarb    Time: 10-30-2007 19:06     Subject: Reply #73 imarielle626's post

You are correct...Adam Monroe is one of the men in the picture.  I also assume he's the Adam from Montreal, so he obviously knows Peter.
Author: silver1978    Time: 11-6-2007 09:22

AH HA its the return of the Kensei!
Author: bala    Time: 11-6-2007 09:29     Subject: Reply #75 silver1978's post

I know

he's Adam i can't believe it-he brillant bad guy-i loved him in alias
Author: waterlilybarb    Time: 11-6-2007 09:49     Subject: Reply #76 bala's post

I figured out half way through the episode, but I didn't think if it before because I was going by the photograph.  I'm interested to see how they bring in the older guy that the others think is Adam.  

You're right, David Anders does play a great baddie.  I'm looking forward to seeing what happens next.
Author: imarielle626    Time: 11-6-2007 10:15

wait adam is kensei???  I totally did not catch that!  hmm i think i'll have to re watch that part of the episode...
Author: bala    Time: 11-6-2007 10:49     Subject: Reply #78 imarielle626's post

how could you not
Author: gabsimom    Time: 11-6-2007 10:51

It's all Hiro's fault
Author: waterlilybarb    Time: 11-6-2007 13:14     Subject: Reply #80 gabsimom's post

I know!  Who would have guessed that our little do-gooder friend would be the catalyst for the impending plague?
Author: silver1978    Time: 11-6-2007 13:26     Subject: Reply #81 waterlilybarb's post

But doesn't all of these explain the behavior of future Hiro? He loses his childhood hero. He is or will feel responsible for the deaths from his father to the unknown numbers possibly dying fromt eh plague.
Author: waterlilybarb    Time: 11-6-2007 13:39     Subject: Reply #82 silver1978's post

Ah, but the Hiro from that future is not the one we are dealing with.  The bomb never went off and killed the people in New York.  So the future Peter saw is a different timeline.  I'm sure once the plague starts to spread and he finds out who Adam is, Hiro will feel responsible and it could change him into someone very like the future Hiro we have already met.  It's gonna be good!

Boy...I LOVE sci-fi!
Author: gabsimom    Time: 11-6-2007 14:02

Quote:
Boy...I LOVE sci-fi!
Who doesn't?
It's the plague.. help me.. can't control.. posting comics..
Author: roca    Time: 11-7-2007 02:37

Ok so Kensei is Adam Monroe... then who are those guys in the picture?

Now that we know Kensei is still alive, I believe he's the one who killed Kaito.

Can't wait for the next episode...
Author: imarielle626    Time: 11-7-2007 05:56     Subject: Reply #79 bala's post

oops i guess i was a little distracted in the end and missed his face
Author: waterlilybarb    Time: 11-7-2007 07:34     Subject: Reply #85 roca's post

He's definitely Kaito's killer.  From Beeman's Blog, he's a director/producer on the show, he indicates there are two incarnations of Adam.  How this will be played out has yet to be revealed.  My theory is that the real Adam aka Kensei, has hired someone with abilities to pose as him since the man in the photo has obviously aged.  I'll have to wait and see if this theory pans out.
I also knew, but loved how it was brought out, that Hiro was the Kensei from the stories.  The end scene with him and Yaeko was beautifully shot.  He "ripped out his heart" for the greater good.  He's such an honourable character.  Poor Hiro, whenever he falls in love it doesn't work out.  First Charlie, now Yaeko.

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Author: gabsimom    Time: 11-7-2007 07:40

Kensei was blown apart. my guess is he regenerated into 2 diffrent people. 1 good and 1 bad.
Author: waterlilybarb    Time: 11-7-2007 07:47     Subject: Reply #88 gabsimom's post

Interesting theory, but remember Claire regenerated after being completely radiated by Ted.  I think their powers of regeneration are substantial.  I'm also just wondering now if Claire is related to Kensei.  Matt has the same ability as his father.  This is the first time we've seen this.  Maybe one of the Petrelli boys, Petrelli parents (unknowingly), or Meredith (Claire's mother) is a descendant of Kensei.  This chapter is called Generations.  There has to be more to it.
Author: gabsimom    Time: 11-7-2007 08:00     Subject: Reply #89 waterlilybarb's post

Well that explains the gorgeous blond hair. but Claires father can fly and so does the boyfriend Ewww he is a politician and could possibly be West's father too.  They wouldn't do that to us right?
Author: waterlilybarb    Time: 11-7-2007 08:39     Subject: Reply #90 gabsimom's post

No, they wouldn't.  That would be too creepy.  Not all the children have the same powers as the parents, just look at Micah.  It's evident the Petrelli family has some strong powers and Adam had obviously been in touch with Peter during the 4 missing months.  It seems to me, there MUST be some connection.
Author: roca    Time: 11-7-2007 21:39     Subject: Reply #87 waterlilybarb's post

I was actually thinking maybe Kensei was in the picture but he was hiding behind the group... remember Papa Petrelli seems to be looking at something behind Kaito...

Two Adam Monroe? Maybe they just share the same name. It could be a common name like John Doe LOL. Maybe it's his decedent? He has to have some decedents right? Unless he's still hung up on Yaeko...

As for how Peter met Adam... didn't Bob say Adam was locked up? From what I've seen from the previews, it looks like Peter was locked up too along with Adam. I guess Peter used one of his powers broke them out of "jail"...
Author: xxjujuxx    Time: 11-8-2007 12:51

that episode was AWESOME!!! It really pains me that there the writers are on strike!!! theres gonn be a loooong hiatus after episode 10! luxkily, part of the mystery will be solved by then!!!
Author: waterlilybarb    Time: 11-8-2007 19:07     Subject: Reply #93 xxjujuxx's post

So glad you've become such an avid fan Juju.   You're right, this week's episode was GREAT.  I'm glad the producers have prepared for the possibility of the strike not being resolved, and re-shot the final episode of the chapter "Generations".  The current storyline will be tied up.  Hopefully the strike will be settled by then and, they won't have to use it.
Author: SirAlain    Time: 11-9-2007 00:01

I just want West to die.

Oh, and please hurry with the twins' story arc already. Since episode 1, their storyline hasn't changed:
* they are heading to NY
* Someone chases them and angers/scares the girl
* The girl cries black gooey tears and kills everyone
* The twins feel bad
* The twins continue on to the USA

REPEAT, REPEAT, REPEAT...
Author: waterlilybarb    Time: 11-9-2007 12:23     Subject: Reply #95 SirAlain's post

I'm not hoping for West to die, but I'd like it if his character was a little more...something...I'm not sure what, it just needs more.  As for the twins, I totally agree.  I'm assuming they must have something to do with the plague.  Maybe Alejandro will be part of the key to curing it, but if not they need to go.  Maybe Sylar will eat their brains and have the power to infect and heal...that's if he ever gets his ability back.
Author: SirAlain    Time: 11-9-2007 15:42     Subject: Reply #96 waterlilybarb's post

Do you think that because Maury & Matt Parkman had similar powers, then maybe Claire is also related to Kensei/Adam Monroe? And West is Nathan's son?!!! Eeeek! Incest galore.

I miss Monica, we need more of her. Too bad she won't be a regular.
Author: waterlilybarb    Time: 11-9-2007 20:53     Subject: Reply #97 SirAlain's post

I definitely do NOT think that West is Nathan's son.  See my post #91 regarding that.

I like Monica too.  They're certainly not using her to the full.  I'm hoping that will be rectified soon.  Even if she's not a regular, there's a whole lot more that can be explored about her character.  If the writer's strike continues there won't be time for things like that if they haven't already been addressed in the episodes they have "in the can".

How about the reappearance of DL in this week's episode?  That was a nice little treat.  I'm surprised no one has mentioned it.  He wasn't one of my favourite characters and I'm not sorry he's dead, but I like it when the storyline allows old characters to come back for a short time.
Author: akulkarni    Time: 11-9-2007 21:23

my jaw dropped when kensei walked in as monroe wow!!! that was amazing maybe i am stupid but i never saw that coming.  i am really looking forward to see how this plays out especially with hiro.  killing sylar in season 1 was a possibility because despite all his powers sylar was still mortal but what about monroe. i do wonder, however, if the focus of the rest of the season is going to be the shaanti virus.  
its ironic the name shaanti which means peace/prosperity in hindi (i know because i am indian).
Author: waterlilybarb    Time: 11-9-2007 21:53     Subject: Reply #99 akulkarni's post

Interesting tidbit about the name Shanti.  I didn't know that, and it is ironic.

This is turning into a great season.  Let's keep our fingers crossed it doesn't end with episode 11.  I really would like to know what happens next.  The "Generations" chapter only has 4 more episodes.  I wonder how they'll tie it all together?



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