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Reply 36#36 bala's post

I read the synopsis of the show and was very intrigued. Decent premiere episode...hopefully it speeds up a little bit.




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'Orphan Black' star Tatiana Maslany reeling from Critics' Choice win

'Orphan Black' star Tatiana Maslany reeling from Critics' Choice win



TORONTO - Regina-born actress Tatiana Maslany says she's still in denial after scoring a surprise best actress win at the Critics' Choice Television Awards.
The Canuck star of "Orphan Black" triumphed Monday night over seasoned rivals including Claire Danes from "Homeland," Keri Russell from "The Americans," Julianna Margulies from "The Good Wife," Vera Farmiga from "Bates Motel" and Elisabeth Moss from "Mad Men."

Maslany says from Los Angeles that she is definitely "the weirdo in that group," and is trying not to focus too much on murmurs that the win could catapult her to more international fame.
Last year's critics' choice actress winner — Danes from "Homeland" — went on to win the best actress Emmy Award.
The 27-year-old Maslany earned the critics' pick for her multiple turns in the Toronto-shot Space series, where she plays several varied characters who are clones of each other.

For those late to the sci-fi drama, season one repeats on Space beginning Thursday and is also streaming online at space.ca. Season two of "Orphan Black" begins filming in Toronto this fall.

"I'm still kind of in denial that it even happened, it's all pretty surreal," Maslany said Tuesday from Santa Monica, noting she thought there was "no way" she would win the category.
"It's like, Vera Farmiga and Claire Danes and Keri Russell — these actresses who I've been watching since I was seven and have always admired and just (are) completely out of my league. It was just crazy. Even just being in that room, I couldn't believe that I was even in that space with Bryan Cranston and Patton Oswalt and all these heroes of mine."

Online clips of the bash show Maslany's voice wavering as she accepted a trophy from presenters Jimmy Smits and Angela Bassett.

"Thank you so much to the critics — our weird little show would be nowhere without you guys talking about it," a bewildered Maslany said before going on to thank broadcasters BBC America and Space, her publicists and her hair and makeup team.
"Thank you to John Fawcett and Graeme Manson, the creators of this show, for giving me the greatest opportunity of my life.... I'm so honoured to be in this room, thank you."

The win is just the latest kudo for Maslany, who received a breakout performance special jury prize at the 2010 Sundance Film Festival for her coming-of-age film "Grown Up Movie Star" and was named a "rising star" at the Toronto International Film Festival last year, a distinction meant to showcase the next generation of Canadian actors poised for international careers.

Maslany will be up for another best actress prize at the Television Critics Association Awards on Aug. 3. The Toronto-shot "Orphan Black" also scored a nomination for best new program.

"I think these kind of things are amazing for just the visibility that it gets you," she says of all the attention.

"Nobody's heard of me so just to get my name out there and (to know) that the critics are seeing the work I've done and the work that's happening on 'Orphan Black' and appreciating it and wanting to reward it or whatever, that's incredible and that can only help a career and only help somebody who's otherwise unknown."

The prospect of now being in the middle of Emmy chatter is "ridiculous," she adds.

"For me, the reward is doing the work and this other stuff is incredible and amazing but ... not why I do what I do. It's not the reason I'm an actor," says Maslany, who names Gena Rowlands as an actress she admires with a career she would like to emulate.
"We're very much about the career being a long-term thing and not kind of (what's) hot and that's it. Fame or any of that stuff is not in my dreams and it's not where I want to be and I just want to be working for the rest of my life so that's very much the kind of trajectory that we're trying to create."

"Orphan Black" is a particularly challenging series because it demands so many different sides of Maslany — she alternately plays a soccer mom, a street-smart British orphan, a cornrow-headed science geek, a murderous big-haired blonde and a mysterious German, among others.
"Every job is hard in a different way and this one is just a different experience for me," says Maslany, whose other upcoming projects include a feature film opposite Richard Dreyfuss and directed by Jason Priestley called "Cas & Dylan."

"The challenge of it is what made me wake up every morning and want to be on set and what made me fall in love with the project... That's what excites me about working — is challenging myself. I get bored otherwise, my attention span is really short and I want to kind of have to push against the odds a little bit."

She wouldn't say if she'll be tackling more characters in season two but hinted that the season one finale "opened more doors."


courtesy http://ca.news.yahoo.com/orphan-black-star-tatiana-maslany-reeling-critics-choice-210154592.html




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Reply 45#45 bala's post

I finally watched season 1 finale....here's my take

Donnie's revelation was no surprise to me (remember when he was burning the contents from his metal box). I always knew he was her monitor, Ainsley was just NOSY beyond compare. Alison is ("it's not easy, she's not easy") so the Group decided to have her monitor constant in her life versus someone who comes and goes, as it seems Mrs S is to Sarah. Or maybe she kidnap Sarah away from the labs to protect her.

I hope Cosima survives and she doesn't wait to long to tell her sisters that she's sick. I still don't trust Delphine or Paul!

Hopefully Mrs S was able to hide Kira and herself before the Neolionsits came.

It was good to see that Helena did not like the fate life dealt her, (living with the Bible thumpers etc.), but it was something she excepted because it was the only thing she knew. I felt for Sarah over the loss of her Mom...someone whom she longed to meet.


I thought Art would've uttered the 'C' word in the finale. He knows about Beth, Katja & Sarah.

Overall, great series...one of the MOST ORINIGNAL to air on TV in years....can't wait for season 2





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Season 2 premiere is already on the site. It cannot get any better than that!  




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Oh man! What a great premiere. I knew Helena was not dead, you can't kill such a good character. I like how they kept it under wraps. They showed all the other clones in previews but keeping one inside their pocket.

Helena (the clones) genes/patent is what's kept her alive.

It appears that the religious zealots have Kira.....I thought they would reveal that Mrs S saw the dangers ahead and whisked her away. However, my prediction can still be possible, next week's episode: ' Sarah enlists Art’s help to find Kira and is shocked when she learns where the trail leads' courtesy http://www.bbcamerica.com/orphan-black/videos/trailer-governed-by-sound-reason-and-true-religion/ Time will tell


And how can I forget Sarah impersonating Cosima. We've seen Sarah + Allison & Allison + Sarah.....but, not the latter so that was fun to see.


I'll never trust Paul or Delphine....no matter what. Art on the other hand....it's about time they brought him closer to Sarah and the others.

Overall, excellent premiere!




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Originally posted by bala at 5-11-2014 09:36  
It was a great start to the season but finding out who kidnap  Kira was a surprise
I always knew Mrs S had Kira....figured that out since last season


[quote - posted by Bala]Governed by Sound Reason and True Religion
Well we are certainly wonder how many bad guys are there out there that know about the clones ?[/quote]


Well, when you think about it the current bad guys have always been there. DYAD institute, the cops, and the cult lead Henrik is not new (just expanded). Remember he's leading a flock of followers who broke away from the original Prolethean brotherhood that Helena belonged to.
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Originally posted by bala at 5-11-2014 09:41  
Well finding who Kira father was and he really didn't didn't know but finding out he was mark was sad and Felix being mad that he didn't know who Kira father was amusing. He does seem like a good guy  ...
Yeah,  I've been waiting for dad to pop up to.

My only issue with that episode was how the guy who works for Dyad found Sara & Kira. How did he track them to the town, much less to Cal's home???? In the end the cop might've felt  suspicious and follow him back to Cal's farm....but how did the other guy find them so fricking fast? The writers missed a couple of big steps in the script.




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Reply 85#85 codebreaker's post

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Man, what an episode...the season is really heating up. You just gotta love Helena....such an animal

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This episode saved all the good stuff for the last minute. Long term sturdy made Donnie's spy on Ali and her activities. Plausible.  Aldious introduced us to his Neolutionist replacement before his death....let's see what she has up her sleeves.
I was spoiled about Aldious death, so I expected it. When Donnie appeared in the end I kinda figured him for trigger man, but, not the way it happened....complete accident. WOW!! Both husband & wife got a body hanging over their heads.

That's classic   




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'Orphan Black': Tatiana Maslany breaks down the season finale and that crazy twist


Tatiana Maslany got to taste both the good and the bad and the maybe in the season 2 finale of Orphan Black. Sarah escaped from the Dyad Institute and was reunited with daughter Kira. (Good.) Rachel watched her father kill himself and then got stabbed in the eye by a pencil-spewing fire extinguisher, while Helena was taken and shipped off an military plane to lord knows where. (Bad.) And Cosima is still sick but might have uncovered some clues to her illness in a book that Professor Duncan gave Kira. (Maybe.) We caught up with Maslany to get her take on these events and more, including that crazy clone dance party (where she had to play four different characters shaking their respective groove thangs), the twist of there also being a group of male clones, and what she knows about next season. (Also make sure to read our season 2 finale Q&A with Orphan Black creators John Fawcett and Graeme Manson.)


ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: So I know at the end of season 1 a big burden was put on you with all the clone scenes and multiple clone scenes, and when I was on set earlier in the season we talked about how some of that burden had been lifted in season 2. But after watching this finale I was like, did this woman get a break at all? Because you really are in pretty much every scene, and sometimes as more than one character.
TATIANA MASLANY: Yeah, and we had that amazing dance party scene which was pushing the envelope as far as what we could do technically. It took us two days to shoot that, but it was so much fun and so much fun when we finally got to watch it back and see how it had all come together. It was just a total blast



EW: It was seamless. But how did you come up with the dance moves for everyone?
MASLANY: Like any actor who understands the physicality of their character. And dance for me has always been the thing that has been my key towards differentiating the clones, so it was fairly natural. The one that took the most out of me was definitely Helena.



EW: That woman was getting into it!
MASLANY: She loves a good tune, as you can see. She loves to kick it on the dance floor.



EW: Yet she’s so awkward. It’s like she doesn’t exactly know what to do or how to do it.
MASLANY: No kidding! It’s not like she’s ever actually been to a dance. She didn’t go to high school and have all those obligatory growing pains of going to a dance and learning how to move so she moves from a very animal/baby perspective.



EW: My favorite scenes are the ones where you have the three of Sarah, Cosima, and Alison together, but I know how tricky and time consuming they are, so what is your reaction when you see that you are going to be filming that big get together at Fee’s place? Excitement? Dread? Both?
MASLANY: It’s a big combination for me, but I have to say all those scenes were so awesome. I was so excited to read them because there was nothing about them that was plot driven. They were just the characters, the sisters reunited and meeting Helena for the first time. And that was so much fun to play with as an actor. Regardless of the technical things, when you have that lovely scene work to play it just kind of takes care of itself. And the scene between Cosima and Sarah in bed talking about life and death and science — I got to work with [acting double] Kathryn [Alexandre] on all of those takes and she wasn’t pulled out so I didn’t have to look at an X or whatever, so it was really quite intimate and lovely.



EW: Tell me about playing that scene as Rachel where she has to watch her father kill himself right in front of her. What is she sadder about losing there: her dad, whom she thought she had lost before, or the information he possesses? Or is it a combination of the both?
MASLANY: Yeah, I’d say it’s a combination. I think Rachel can’t help but be single minded as far as her work goes, but at the same time I feel like that scene is about a daughter losing her father. It was about her being back as a kid and not understanding this concept of death, and it really brought her to a place that she’s probably forgotten about and pushed away and it’s probably a great deal of the reason that she is so emotionally closed, because she’s been so hurt and so abandoned. So to get to experience that traumatic moment again was obviously a really interesting thing to play with such a guarded character.


EW: How do you view Rachel? Is she the enemy? Is she to be pitied? I know Orphan Black doesn’t really deal with black and white hats and everyone has a little bit of a grey hat, but how do you view Rachel?
MASLANY: I don’t see her as a villain in any way. I think she doesn’t do kind things necessarily, but her iciness and her coldness has to spring from a place of pain and a place of deep humanity. So, to me, it’s fun to play someone who is so loathed and find compassion for her. It’s funny, because she is so much less compassionate than Helena even though Helena is killing people left, right, and center. Nobody seems to think she’s a bad person because we get these glimpses of her soft side and we sort of root for her. But Rachel seems to really get people pissed off. And I kind of love that. I think that’s so fun. As a viewer, I love whoever is the villain, so those are my favorite people to watch.



EW: I cannot believe that we have to go through another entire year of worry about Cosima’s health. How can you guys do this to us again? It’s brutal!
MASLANY: I know, right. We just want you guys to suffer.



EW: I thought we might get some sort of resolution there, and maybe there are some clues in that Dr. Moreau book, but this is a tough one to swallow.
MASLANY: Yeah, absolutely. I feel the same way..



EW: I guess the alternative could have been worse though, right?
MASLANY: I know! I’m just happy she’s still there



EW: Okay, what was your reaction when the creators, John Fawcett & Graeme Manson, told you about the twist at the end where we learn there is also a set of male clones out there?
MASLANY: I was so, so, so excited. Ari, who plays Mark and now a bunch of the other guys, has been such an incredible addition to our show, and I think we all were really blown away by his work. He has so much commitment and so much depth and is so compelling to watch on camera. So when they came to me with that idea of having Ari play those characters I was like, “Oh my God! Absolutely! It would be silly not to mine his talent. He is so fantastic.”


EW: Has Ari come to you asking for any advice on how to play all these different characters yet?
MASLANY: We’ve talked about it. I think for him, the technical thing is what is quite scary for him. So he sat in on the dance party sequence to get a sense of it, which is probably the scariest thing he could have sat in on because that was just a nightmare. [Laughs] But he seems really excited about the idea.


EW: I want to go back a few weeks because I know all of you were really looking forward to seeing the reaction from viewers when you introduced Tony the transclone character. Tell me about bringing that character to life and then the response that came in once it aired.
MASLANY: To me, Tony was a really exciting character to bring up. He sort of offered this whole otherexploration of gender identity and expression and also he was just an exciting character outside of his gender identification. He was sort of this badass in a new way and had this edge to him and darkness to him that was exciting. And what’s exciting to me is that people have been very polarized about him. To some people he spoke a great deal about their own identity. We had an amazing response from trans guys who have seen themselves in him or are so happy to see themselves on screen. And then there are others that don’t feel that he represents them and don’t feel that’s the way it has to be. We never set up to speak for an entire community or an entire experience, and Tony is definitely his own person and his own experience of what it is to be a human and I just loved him. He was so fun and I hope that we get to see him again in season 3.


EW: Such a daring character for you to play and I think it’s funny how John and Graeme were thinking of adding a trans character, and it turns out you and your hair and makeup team were as well at the same time.
MASLANY: Yeah, and we took a lot of risks visually. And I think where Tony comes from is not necessary a very affluent background or very metropolitan background. He comes from a small town and has that kind of vibe about him, which we didn’t really have with the other clones so it was quite fun.


EW: How much have John & Graeme shared with you about their ideas for season 3 at this point?
MASLANY: A little bit. But I can’t say they’ve given me too much info, which is okay with me because I’m always excited to be surprised by what they come up with. But I think we are going to have a little chat about what’s coming up and I’m just excited to hear what they have in store.





courtesy http://insidetv.ew.com




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Reply 95#95 codebreaker's post

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Good episode . I hope we get to see Tony again...and delve a little deeper into his background. Makes you wonder what happen with his side of the gene sequence with made him want to change his sex. Very interesting.

Plus, Sarah according to the original design of the program is seen as a failure since she could give birth.


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It's frightening to think of Helena giving birth...I hope that does not happen in season 3. I like Helena's move on the cult  leader...it was so fitting.

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Duncan taking his own life was not expected...but I guess it prolongs the show since they have to find another way to get to the gene sequence and unlocking it which Kira has in the book.

Somehow, I don't think Rachel destroyed Kira's bone marrow....that's too precious to them.

Why is Helena always getting kidnapped?

I knew Mark would turn out to be the male clone. As customary the Proletheans always have their hand on their own clone copy.




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Reply 96#96 Milks26's post

Overall, season 2 was great. Very few questions were answered but a lot of new questions were created, which keeps the show going especially with the male clones, the military's angle (what they want with Helena), and will Cosima be able to unlock the gene sequence and cure herself.

Like I said season 2 was great but,  it still cannot hold a candle to season 1.  




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Reply 97#97 Milks26's post

Why did Helena leave the Nitrogen canister in the apartment? Does she still believe that she is the one true clone or did she leave it as a weapon they could use? I can kinda see her trying to kill the others (although she hasn't tried this season) but not Kira?

Your thoughts?




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Reply 99#99 bala's post

Hey, that's not like you....just kidding




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Reply 101#101 bala's post

You obviously don't have my memory dude!




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Orphan Black Season 3

Here's the official synopsis for Season 3, already in production:



Season 3 plunges the clone sisterhood into unexpected territory with the realization that they’re not alone. Just when they thought they knew their enemies and allies, Season 3 reveals our clones are more vulnerable than ever before. Highly trained, identical male-soldiers raise more questions than answers. Who are these new clones? Who created them? And more importantly, why do they exist? Sarah, Cosima, Alison and Helena are stronger together than they are apart, but this season will put that bond to the test. Will they forge towards their truth, or fall at the feet of those that seek to control them?




courtesy https://tv.yahoo.com





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Meet Orphan Black's scariest male clone, "Scarface."

Meet Orphan Black's scariest male clone, "Scarface."

On Orphan Black's third season, which kicks off Saturday, April 18  at 9/8c on BBC America, the "seestrahood" will have to contend with  Project Castor, the brother clone project of Project Leda, which  produced Sarah, Cosima, Alison, Helena and Rachel (Tatiana Maslany in each role).


Orphan Black revealed the picture or "Scarface" (Ari Millen) at the Television Critics Association winter previews on Saturday.  His actual name is Rudy, a highly lethal, mohawk-wearing fellow raised  as part of Project Castor's self-aware, military-trained clones. Viewers  are already familiar with Mark (also Millen), the Prolethean who  terrorized Sarah and then later married Gracie (Zoe De Grand'Maison),  the daughter of a Prolethean religious leader.
"He likes to get under people's skin. He'll pick at you until you blow  up and then he's won," Millen said of Rudy at the winter preview panel. Creator John Fawcett added,  "Rudy is a threat to the girls, a dangerous character who is very smart  and ruthless. He's seen some action. He's a trained fighter."

Check out more scoop from the panel and a teaser reel that was shown to critics:

A new Leda clone?
The  closing image of the teaser is of someone who looks like another  Project Leda clone with a puffy brown 'do. Is she a new clone? Sarah on a  bad hair day? A wig-wearing Helena? Unfortunately, we won't get answers  until April.

Sarah meets Rudy In the reel, Sarah tells  Rudy that she met Mark, whom he describes as "the wild one." Rudy seems  fascinated with her. "You're a legend, Sarah Manning. You're made of the  good stuff, aren't you?" he says, before closing with the warning,  "Sarah, count your sisters!" Ooh!

Project Castor's origins Fawcett claims the male clone faction had been planned from the  beginning. When they cast Millen as Mark as the Prolethean, they knew  they had their Castor clone. Maslany said that having him play the  Castor clone was a no-brainer, but that it also lightened her load a  little in that "it gave me a chance to have some three-day weekends."




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Reply 118#118 bala's post

Let's hope season 3 is better than 2.




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Reply 90#90 bala's post

Season 3 episode 1-3

The season is slowly trying to shape up, but overall nothing inspiring has happened yet.




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Reply 92#92 bala's post

They might have realized how dull S2 was and try to correct it.

We found out that Art was in love with Beth...interesting . They definitely should make him fall for another sister - Rachel is probably the best candidate. But, I can also see him with Sarah.




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Reply 94#94 waterlilybarb's post

When I compare it to season 1 it was. When a show or movie has more than one part comparisons always come into play.




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